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So I was arguing with someone on FB (what a surprise) who doesn't believe in (Anthropogenic) Global Warming and we got around to my inevitable sticking point that keeps me from giving the denialists and skeptics any credibility at all:
They seem to want to deny that Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas, and seem to disbelieve it's known, observable property that it TRAPS HEAT by absorbing infrared radiation.
I mentioned that most of the websites and that he sent me to eventually seemed to fail Chem 101 level chemistry and he accused me of "probably not knowing 6th grade science"
(to which I said "Yo MAMA done failed 4th GRADE!" and we eventually got into a knife fight that accidentally killed some action hero's police partner and then stuff started blowing up- wait, no that was the dream I had last night)
Anyway, I've been pondering awhile this basic problem: that most people who don't *believe* in Global Warming truly don't understand that it's based on a fundamental property of CO2, that there's some esoteric gobbledygook that is being spun, and lied about. And I also think that alot of people who "haven't made up their mind" also just don't know that it's based on sound observable science.
I think alot of minds can be swayed and alot of skeptics sent to ponder if there were a simple, basic, dramatic demo of what CO2 actually DOES.
So I've been pondering awhile and I think I've done it.
I'm posting here to look for some comments. It's been awhile since I've done any "real" science and I don't know all my coefficients and properties the way I did in my teens. I believe that this experiment will work and that it will do so rather dramatically. Can anyone confirm or deny my theory?
So, here it is:
( A 6TH GRADE SCIENCE EXPERIMENT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT CARBON DIOXIDE IS A GREENHOUSE GAS )
Comments please?
Bear in mind, that this a crude demonstration and it's accuracy is utimately limited.
This is 6th grade science. I'm sure that 8th grade and higher versions can be designed that are better controlled and more accurate.
What I want to know is whether it will at least show some results, namely to demonstrate CO2's Greenhouse Effect. I'm predicting that the two extremes in the measured samples will be pretty dramatic, and that if it's done carefully enough that it's *possible* to not only see a direct progression sample to sample, but with enough samples and gradations, begin to be able to extrapolate results *out* of the immediate experimental range.
I also realise that using atmospheric air with additional CO2 means that we're demonstrating what happens *outside* of our current conditions. If that causes enough doubt, pure Oxygen can be used instead, but that adds to the cost, and I think that the results will be similar. The "proper" mixture of Nitrogen and Oxygen can be formulated, but now we're beginning to get out of 6th grade science.
The big question, before I release this into the wild is "Will it work?"
I think it will.
If you don't think so, tell me why, please.
They seem to want to deny that Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas, and seem to disbelieve it's known, observable property that it TRAPS HEAT by absorbing infrared radiation.
I mentioned that most of the websites and that he sent me to eventually seemed to fail Chem 101 level chemistry and he accused me of "probably not knowing 6th grade science"
(to which I said "Yo MAMA done failed 4th GRADE!" and we eventually got into a knife fight that accidentally killed some action hero's police partner and then stuff started blowing up- wait, no that was the dream I had last night)
Anyway, I've been pondering awhile this basic problem: that most people who don't *believe* in Global Warming truly don't understand that it's based on a fundamental property of CO2, that there's some esoteric gobbledygook that is being spun, and lied about. And I also think that alot of people who "haven't made up their mind" also just don't know that it's based on sound observable science.
I think alot of minds can be swayed and alot of skeptics sent to ponder if there were a simple, basic, dramatic demo of what CO2 actually DOES.
So I've been pondering awhile and I think I've done it.
I'm posting here to look for some comments. It's been awhile since I've done any "real" science and I don't know all my coefficients and properties the way I did in my teens. I believe that this experiment will work and that it will do so rather dramatically. Can anyone confirm or deny my theory?
So, here it is:
( A 6TH GRADE SCIENCE EXPERIMENT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT CARBON DIOXIDE IS A GREENHOUSE GAS )Comments please?
Bear in mind, that this a crude demonstration and it's accuracy is utimately limited.
This is 6th grade science. I'm sure that 8th grade and higher versions can be designed that are better controlled and more accurate.
What I want to know is whether it will at least show some results, namely to demonstrate CO2's Greenhouse Effect. I'm predicting that the two extremes in the measured samples will be pretty dramatic, and that if it's done carefully enough that it's *possible* to not only see a direct progression sample to sample, but with enough samples and gradations, begin to be able to extrapolate results *out* of the immediate experimental range.
I also realise that using atmospheric air with additional CO2 means that we're demonstrating what happens *outside* of our current conditions. If that causes enough doubt, pure Oxygen can be used instead, but that adds to the cost, and I think that the results will be similar. The "proper" mixture of Nitrogen and Oxygen can be formulated, but now we're beginning to get out of 6th grade science.
The big question, before I release this into the wild is "Will it work?"
I think it will.
If you don't think so, tell me why, please.
